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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2008, 06:18:33 PM »

Yeah, i totally agree with Theibault

Ditch the poles and just practise, you should pick it up quite quickly, I think your relying on your poles too much. Aslong as you got wrist and knee pads on your not really gonna hurt yourself if you fall from just walking around.

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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2008, 12:44:42 PM »

The poles are starting to get in the way. I feel I only need one now.

I've taken some pictures with my non-digital camera of my mods, now the main photographer was gone nuts, the professional one is too expensive, the better-bocker-than-me one has still forgotten to email me clips, the amatuer one's gone missing, and the magazine one just won't do it. Gone through a roll of film, and should be developed & online by the end of the week.

Will save money by going to my local gym, seems about £5 a session, whatever a session is defined as, then should be able to afford to get up/down/along to Cardiff.

What's the best way of carrying bocks? I could have a bag with my safety gear in, and the original box with the bocks in, but then I have to carry the bag and box with me when I'm bocking... and I can't! Maybe I'll tape together some disposable bock-carriers. How do you tackle this problem? Travelling by rail in this instance.
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2008, 01:28:55 PM »

strap all the pads to the stilts, hook the kneebars/cuffs over your sholders with the springs in front of you
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2008, 02:12:56 PM »

Bag on back and a spring in either hand.
Can hold 2 springs in one hand when needed to push buttons or open doors etc
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« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2008, 02:08:08 PM »

Thank you: I will add that to my next practice session.
Practice, practice.

Someone has sent me £100 in the post(!) -So I will (use and) declare it as expenses and no more worries about gym cost / Cardiff trains.
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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2008, 02:59:12 PM »

Damn, I wish people sent me £100 in the post.

ps. If you want my address pm me   Tongue
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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2008, 03:13:26 PM »

No need for your address (not yet anyway, and certainly not your home address); I'll be using local gyms (Chippenham) for the time being, and my sofa at home as a crashmat when possible to cut costs further. I think I can get concessionary cost due to being on JSA.
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« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2008, 03:16:20 PM »

LOL, i was joking, hoping people would want to send me money in the post  Cheesy
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« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2008, 07:27:43 PM »

Messing around in the car park
(Photos taken by Martin Axford, postprocessed by Robin Hodson)


Beforehand, showing equipment



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Some of the equipment on it's own
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Strapping my legs

My additional Calf Cuff, made out of a dog collar


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Socking my tyres

Using a racing tyre made three socks and a spare bit


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Binding my springs

The unmodified 'riser prior to starting


Using a racing tyre left a lots of bits over


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All done, including tyre sock

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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2008, 12:26:47 PM »

The local "gym" in the leisure centre turned out to be nothing of the sort,
but I've found an alternative on a local industrial estate, the company name
of which is "The Gym", so that'd be the The Gym gym, then. I've booked a session.

Floor too hard at The Gym, and crashmats too thin. Friendly, though. They waived my fee, largely due
to the amusement factor. Also, we concluded it was too dangerous to proceed, which meant that not
much time was used. Usually they charge £5/session, and a session usually last's an hour.

I have found this useful very link for finding gyms:
http://www.fia.org.uk/choose-a-gym.html
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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2008, 02:12:26 PM »

Ok. firstly, get rid of the poles. they are only holding you back as you are relying on them way too much. as for the pipe insulation back support, that isnt needed either, all you need is knee pads, wrist guards and elbow pads, possibly a helmet if you end up doing more adventurous things and gloves maybe if you really do fall over alot. nothing else.

by taking those small bits of equipment youll find traveling with them alot easier as it will all fit in a tiny rucksack.

untill you can walk efficiently and are alot more confident on your bocks, i would suggest going to the gym is a bizare idea as there is no need. just put on the very basic of safety gear, get outside without the poles and have someone walk infront of you to hold your hands so you dont fall, then as youy take steps and get more confident, let go of one of the others hands.

this weekend at an international jamboree, ive taught 3 people how to walk on stilts within 10 mins of putting them on and 2 of those were of your age.

i admire the way u want to protect yourself but you seem to have gone to excess of the extreme, as far as i know, no1 i know of has every used poles to aid them walking.

really hope some of this is taken onboard and your progression is made swifter
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« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2008, 07:37:48 PM »

Get rid of the poles; you are relying on them way too much.
No-one I know of has every used poles to aid them walking.

Yes, well, I have ditched the poles now. They were only a temporary measure, largely because for the first
three weeks I only had a concrete car park to practice in, sprinkled with abrasive gravel, and I could only
practice for half an hour, once a week, in the evening, as it was getting dark. Needless to say, this increased
the danger And slowed me down. Now I've been training intensively at home, in my lounge, with a mattress and
lots of cushions, duvet, etc, on the floor, and the poles are in the way now.

The poles were to prop me up when I had no balance at all, and to stop me falling backwards.
Since I began practicing indoors, I have been able to push off from one wall and walk to the next, and also
to push off from one wall, walk over to the mattress, and fall over. I could not do either of these things
in that damn car park.

So far, I've fallen over around twenty times, none of them accidentally. I've got the knack of breaking my
fall with my face, and I'm trying to avoid that by punching the ground with both hand-heels first. Nonetheless,
my kneepads make first floorfall, and bending my knees as I go down doesn't seem to make any difference.

I thought there would be a sickening sensation of falling, then a very heavy impact, but there isn't: the fall itself
is too short to perceive in that way. -It's just a fall-position/lean, and then a splitsecond later I'm on the mattress.
Then there's an inertia effect of my lower legs flying up and crashing back down.

I've also got quite good and walking around, although not very far because the length of my lounge is taken up on
one end by the mattress and on the other by some large expensive ceiling-high glass doors, so I go back and forth between
the walls, forwards, backwards, sideways, and walking around in tight circles.

I've also found that I'm prone to slight dancing movement, which is very strange indeed because I can't dance out of bocks.


Until you can walk efficiently and are a lot more confident on your bocks, going to the gym is a bizarre idea...
The gym is just somewhere to practice that isn't a car park. I can't "just go outside", and other people are only around at specific times. That's life in a semirural area for you.


As for the pipe insulation back support, that isn’t needed either, all you need is... possibly a helmet if...
I admire the way you want to protect yourself but you seem to have gone to excess of the extreme.
... I really hope some of this is taken on board...

I'm going into this professionally, which means I will be making money out of it, and I will be doing it a lot.
If you took that attitude into work, you'd get yourself fired, and if you got injured at work, even
if it was somebody else's fault, you wouldn't get any compensation out of the employer. If you injured someone else
before you got fired, your employer would come after you for the money: It's called negligence.

I'm not intending to impact the helmet, and if I ever do, I'll have to replace it immediately.
The back protector -only an invalid would need a back support- is just until I can afford body armour.
It's not secure enough to stay on outdoors on a windy day, and it'll end up being built into other equipment
later on, anyway.

Anyway, I can't wear it at the Cardiff event, because it'll obscure the artwork. Not ideal, but just a risk
I have to take. Attempts to fall backwards deliberately have failed so far, so I'll have to get a coach in a gym
to chock my hooves and push me backwards onto a crashmat in order to practice that.

I have to learn how to fall safely in a controlled (ie padded) environment, so when/if I fall on concrete / steps / spikes
etc outdoors, I'll protect myself instinctively: That's what training is all about.


by taking those small bits of equipment... it will all fit in a tiny rucksack.

A small rucksack will be too big; any size will obscure the artwork on the shirt. I've brought a bum bag
instead, which equipment will not fit into, so I'll either strap it to the 'risers (as recommended earlier), or
wear it.


On a different note, I've found that I'm exercise muscles I didn't know I had. My abdominals had muscle stiffness for the first two days, largely through lifting myself on the edge of a seat, then up from there. My arms were also sore for a bit: Until this week, I was getting more exercise carrying the damn things around, than from actually using them.

I've also found that the previous gym-finder link is no good. That just points to treadmill-rooms, not actual gymnasiums.
For proper gyms, (Southwest only) :
http://www.southwestgym.org.uk/
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« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2008, 02:30:11 PM »

Summary since CB:
More short practice (walking) runs around Network Rail's concrete carpark.
Two slightly longer runs in the better of the town's two parks.
A two-mile bock home, including the second park stint.
1½ mile bock back to the office, passing by the insurance brokers, because I feel they didn't believe me last time I asked about a quote.
Last Tuesday, finally, a 3 hour 1 mile bock with lots of stops around the fairly steep High Street & town centre, with extra (secret) equipment on (which will now need redesigning because it banged into the bocks!)
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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2008, 03:04:34 PM »

We only saw you on the Friday afternoon Trundler, and then you didn't come and say Hi. Where were you?!

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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2008, 04:59:52 PM »

atfirst. i saw the poles aand thought, no way a blind man??lol
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