Perfect springs, your thoughts about..

[tundrah]

Until they start making the springs from metal, I don't think they will ever be that good, Dome.

tundrah if u can think of a metal thats not gunna cost a fortune and wont heat up when it bends i would like to hear it i work with metal and u cant make a spring that will last more than a week its would get hot and bend into a fixed shape or snap

I'm not a metalurgist or anything so I can't suggest a metal.  Although I keep thinking of how these are shapped like the old leafsping suspension on cars.  Wouldn't that be able to work?

[toddy]

all i can say is if that is so

Until they start making the springs from metal, I don't think they will ever be that good, Dome.

tundrah if u can think of a metal thats not gunna cost a fortune and wont heat up when it bends i would like to hear it i work with metal and u cant make a spring that will last more than a week its would get hot and bend into a fixed shape or snap

i better buy loads of springs for my bike!
but at about 120 a piece i dont think they will bugger up. and they are normally good for about 2-3years
but i think u mean that defomation of matal it has to go into it's plastic region and even with heat it will take al;ot befor it bends past the thoreticly point.
with a standered piece of carbon steel it takes about 60Ton befor it get's to that pint(piece 5mm thick 10mm wide)

[Mantis]

Dome,
If these new springs were all that you think they are, would we be able to aquire them here in the U.S. either by purchasing them directly from the manufacturer or you shipping them to us?

[Chocl8]

If they are that good, why have we not heard of them before?

[Dome]

Hehe,
it's like I told not a 100% shure now, but I get a damned good feeling and I learned damned much about springs these last months. So if they are what they're promising, you will hear about soon, don't worry. And if ever they are what they're promising, everybody is invited to the meeting that will find place this year in switzerland. (Date not fixed yet) And there you can test the hell out of them yourself.

Have fun, jump high, says Dome

[Trip Master]

I think there will be surprises from all spring brands this and next year. As this sport develops i doubt very much that anyone is standing still. The best way to launch anything truely ground breaking is to keep quiet about it until you have it, tested, proven and in the market place ready for people to buy. Until then everything is speculation of what could be, if's and ands 

[Dome]

With anby doubt you're right by what you're claiming TM. But at this moment there is no question to real launch something, seen that I have been right from the beginning clear about. There is a possible way for me to get such springs and by possible I never did talk about a shure way. But seen that such springs would be more expensive than others, my intention at this instance is only to check out, if there are enough people interested in such springs and willing to pay a reasonable price for it. And as a sensed person for what i do consider you, I don't need to explain you, why they would be more expensive.
I'm without any doubts a little enthusiastic about my sight off getting what they're promissing, but I'm a sensed person as well and I do get some reasons to be enthusiastic. Maybe I'm wrong about, maybe I'm right, future will show it. But if it works out the way I'm expecting, it will be a good thing for all of us bouncers.

Have fun, jump high, says Dome

[Mr Frank]

Don't forget that, although a metal spring would lose very little energy, it would probably be quite heavy.  I think beryllium is pretty light and makes high-quality springs, but pure carbon fiber would probably be better.

[masterking09]

Dome would these springs be from a current bock manufacturer, or are they something that you are going to have custom made?  im sure many people would be willing to pay relatively high prices if they are what you say they are. 
-Thanks

[Dome]

Hi masterking,
as soon as I get a few pair they would be checked out and if they are what I'm expecting, everybody will be immediately informed about the price and where to get them. And if everything is going well, I think to get them within the next twao weeks. Then check out time is comming up and they will be testet by several persons and one well known spring killer in switzerland. He just beat it's record these days and killed a pair of panther springs within 1 hour. No wonder, seen the quality of these springs is very variable. But he did kill lots of other springs as well within very short time and so he would be a good reference for that one.
I'm sorry to not be able to give any further informations of production, origin and such, but at this time this is still considered as secret. But as soon as everything is done and at condition that this springs will keep what they're promising, things will be cleared up, don't worry. 

Have fun, jump high, says Dome

[Sprog]

I think beryllium is pretty light and makes high-quality springs, but pure carbon fiber would probably be better.

Pure carbon fibre is very brittle so would not make good springs, as they would constantly shatter/snap. That's why the current "carbon fibre" springs are actually a fibreglass/carbon fibre resin mix

[Mr Frank]

Oh.

[Mantis]

I think beryllium is pretty light and makes high-quality springs, but pure carbon fiber would probably be better.

Pure carbon fibre is very brittle so would not make good springs, as they would constantly shatter/snap. That's why the current "carbon fibre" springs are actually a fibreglass/carbon fibre resin mix

It depends on how the carbon fiber is layed out, if you lay the fibers one way, they might be stiff as steel and very brittle.  But laying them another way would result in a more flexible product.  it's combining two or more wraping directions that produce a strong spring with an acceptable feel. 

[Beaker]

You have to think about the fibre and the resin when looking at something like this; it's pretty complex when you get down to it.  I'm looking forward to hearing more about these mystery springs - but you know what they say about something that seems too good to be true - it usually is

What you're talking about is a spring superior to S-rex or Powerskip springs but without the fatigue issues, made of a material you've only just discovered but have been able to rapidly get made into a shape suitable for fitting to a standard Bock frame?

I'm sure you can understand my scepticism

[XarnuSonci]

What you're talking about is a spring superior to S-rex or Powerskip springs but without the fatigue issues, made of a material you've only just discovered but have been able to rapidly get made into a shape suitable for fitting to a standard Bock frame?

don't think he said any of that, i'd bet they will still be fiberglass, just stronger, and he didn't say they wouldn't have fatigue issues, they'd just last longer than the average ones do now