Perfect springs, your thoughts about..

[Sprog]

I've not even started !
I'm even working on a compact frame !
And also I've think I've solved the stairs problem ( walking down them ) !
So the answers no !

Compact? Does that mean the fold up or something? That would be awesome

[Dark Knight]

I've not even started !
I'm even working on a compact frame !
And also I've think I've solved the stairs problem ( walking down them ) !
So the answers no !

Compact? Does that mean the fold up or something? That would be awesome

Still early days with that one ( more doddles for now ) but will mean not having to carry stilts ?

[Dome]

Hi bouncers,
After a very frustrating day due to an expensive “photo shooting” (radar control) good luck this day started by a nice surprise. On my way out to the car there has been a package in front of my door and it has been visibly the package of the next mystery springs.
So first I took all the stuff of the day before out of the car and then immediately I had to go to take some pictures of the newest beauty’s.
They’re looking real nice one more time, the weather is great, but I don’t have the time to fix them on a frame to go out and have a try. So hopefully I will find some time and energy to fix them on a frame this evening and having a try tomorrow.
So for the moment I will show you some pictures of them and coming to the scale pictures, they are in several norms so you don’t have to take out your formula book.






















That’s it for now, so have fun, jump high, says Dome

[Sprog]

Thickened ends.. interesting...

How much are these costing you Dome, and where are you getting them from? (apologies if those Q's have already been answered!)

[Dome]

Oooohhhh what I nice bounce I had.....
seen my whole proramme of today have been messed up one more time, I could not hold me back to fix the new mystery's on a frame. So done, I did go to have a damned nice bounce on them.
Seen their still prototypes and seen that I'm aware hey're still made without the breaking protection part that will come out later, I started very very carefully to jump into them. After the first scary moments I pushed them down allready and I have been able to see that one more time the power factor has become some newe improvements. Talking about behaviour it needs just one more little improvement at the last moment of tension. There I want a little extra added to the extra kick. Or kind of a turbo for the last kick if the spring si pushed almost allways down. That's what we gona add on the next prototype, but for the rest, the spring behaviour of that one of today is just perfect.
Next eddition we probably will go as well for the first type with the breaking security, so the point of be ready to be sold is comming closer.

Have fun, jump high, says Dome

[XarnuSonci]

why do you even bother to test them without the full forumula of good bounce and break resistance, its going to change the character , so there's really no point in saying you can make a bouncy spring that will break easily. just doesn't make sense to me

[Dome]

Hi Xarnu,
I do not talk about break resistance, but breaking security!
Sorry to have lead to a missunderstanding!
So to clear that up, the point is:
There is no material on earth which doesn't become weak at a certain moment.
Now the behaviour of glas fibres when becomming weak is different from the one of carbon fibres. There for we need a special protection to control the behaviour by breaking due to material weakness. So it is no question to make a spring that will break easily, but a spring that wil hold longer than evry common spring out on the market now. But even this spring will reach it's end one day and then we have to keep this in mind due to safety aspects.
And yes even that changement would influence the behaviour of the springs, but to control that one is just a piece of cake. First big task is to get the desired behaviour and break safety in the sense you talked about and not in the sense of breaking by material weakness due to usage.
So I hope that one should be cleared up and sorry for confusing you, by counting on your understanding, that my mature lanquage isn't english.

Have fun, jump high, says Dome

[Dark Knight]

I think it must be my size but a number of members of the public who's a light the heavy for the normal spring have been disapionted when I've told 120Kg is the upper limit !?
But then I tell them I broke that with a pair of 180Kg's and working on a frame take the extra power and bigger legs and that your think of making bigger springs. Their not planning to do flips but more for fittness side, it's me who wants to flip ( then again I'm flipping mental LOL ).

[Dome]

YEAHH Dark
as I told allready before, GO FOR YOUR FRAME!
I think it's a great idea to do so, if you can and probably you could end up to be able to sell some of them to other people of your size. But just think about, that you would be forced to make the foot part as well, what could be a dificult task to realize. But I wish you would be able to do so and to realize this task. From our part you can count on it, that we will do our best to provide you a decent spring for your bouncers. But we want you happy and not deceived, so we still need the time to go further in development to archive what we all want.
Would be nice to post something about your frame, once it is done.

Have fun, jump high, says Dome

[Dome]

Ok bouncing friends,
here comes the next little video about the progressing of the mystery springs:



Have fun, jump high, says Dome

[Mr Frank]

Wow, those look WONDERFUL!  I think most of the physical strain from bocking comes from the immediate shock of landing, but those springs are really smooth on the landing.  They look really soft at the top of the compression and really stiff at the bottom.  I think that will make them very easy to use.  If they aren't too expensive, I hope to buy a pair when my current springs wear out.

And by break security, do you mean having some protective piece on the spring to keep the wearer from being injured if the spring breaks?

[bocking mad]

I dont see how you are getting any higher than what i can on my powerizers.

[Dome]

Hi Frank,
not only about the breaking security I always talked you got it right, but I'm kind of surprised, the precise way you do talk about the mystery’s behavior. This is exactly as you wrote and I did not count on it, that much people would see that. While cutting the video I even asked myself, if there would be some people, able to see why I posted it. So I’m glad to see, there is already the first one who looked at my video with a technical sight on the stilts and not at what these two bloody beginners are floundering around.
So by understanding the behavior of these mystery’s you can imagine, the fun it has been to jump around on them, even for non skilled people like us. Seen the very first pair of them did split and seen I’m aware about breaking difference between gf and cf, I have been scared first to push them down. But bouncing on them has been that nice, that it took not long time, until I bottomed them out. But there I have not been satisfied a 100% anymore, seen I want more power in the end. They had good power in the end as well, but not the kind of turbo effect, I’m looking for. Something like the kick down in a strong automatic car, that will give a very strong and nervous push back. I don’t get the timing yet to make use of such, but I’m convinced about, that people who get that timing would be very happy about. So the behavior they have now, plus that little extra would make them the perfect springs in my eyes.
But these springs are made out of the most expensive materials, they’re only made in small series and they’re handmade. The build up of these springs is completely different from anything else, seen we would not be able to attempt our goal otherwise. And so you can imagine, that they will cost a hell of a fortune. I’m sorry to be not able giving you better news about the price, but my main goal has been to get real great springs. And by keeping my feet’s on earth, I never counted with it, that they could be cheap. I had some hope to be able selling them below the 1000.00 CHF (Swiss francs), but this hope is slightly disappearing, seen the construction becomes more and more complicated.

Have fun, jump high, says Dome

@bocking mad
these mystery videos are not at all about height or skill contests, but their one and only reason is to show the people the behavior of the springs. So talking about powerizer springs in this context is just ridiculous.

[Friis]

I havent been reading this thread but yesterday I watched some videos on youtube and found one of those videos where you compared springs. You said you needed almost none effort for the new one to jump high, but I dont get it. How can you possible compress the spring more easy and still make it shot you higher in the air? Energy can't really be created...

[Chocl8]

E=mc²