Perfect springs, your thoughts about..

[ElectricStapler]

And then you can call your bocks "The mystery machines"

Like, Zoinks

It's old man Witherstein!
And I woulda gotten away with it, if it werent for you kids and your mystery springs!
 


please someone get it or else Ill look stupid

[Sprog]

please someone get it or else Ill look stupid

Why else would I have said "Mystery Machines"

[Dark Knight]

I'm just hoping that I can get a pair of 160's or 180's I'm building a different type of frame for them !
By the way that's Kg's

[Sprog]

I'm just hoping that I can get a pair of 160's or 180's I'm building a different type of frame for them !
By the way that's Kg's

Havent you f***ed enough frames up yet DK?

[Dome]

YEEEAAAAHHHH DK,
GO FOR IT!
It's a great idea of you to build your own frame made for your weight and as i told, we will absolutely support you by making springs of your weight range. We just do need to go for some more improvements and tests with the mysterys, to make them as save and reliable as we want them. And by the way i think it's real great, that you don't give up due to your body weight, but that you're just looking for solutions and go for them.

Have fun, jump high, says Dome

[martin]

I like Dome’s ambitions very much. I keep the fingers crossed that he will be able to launch the mysteries.

I do not want to break all your enthusiasm, sorry to say that but such springs already existed. I know prototypes which had a fantastic character.

Why these springs have not been launched so far? Pretty simple: So far they were not able to ensure consistent quality and a reasonable price in mass production. During long term tests durability (re breakings) always turned out to be a problem and the fluctuation range concerning character was too big.

There is always a trade-off between dynamics (=character/ energy exploitation) and durability. E.g. the S-Rex is (unfortunately) a compromise between character and durability. Both are an improvement compared to other models but character wise they could have been even better. But no one is willing to pay for springs which might break early like e.g. too many carbon-springs did in the past.

I am curious if (and how) Dome will be able to handle this trade-off and how long it might take. I would like to have these springs in my hand as soon as they hold a while. I suspect that it is still a long way to go, maybe I am too pessimistic. Dome, I whish you all the best and that you will succeed soon. Keep us informed.

[Dome]

Hey martin,
very nice and objective posting of you, thanks! It does not reflect any thing like breaking enthusiasm, but is just your own opinion about, that seems to be build upon some quiet founded basic knowledge.
So let me tell you, that I’m only that optimistic about, for the reason that the persons who take care about the mystery's wouldn't did solve such troubles already once. Otherwise I never would mentioned what I’m busy with, seen it’s real a damned hard goal to attempt. But I have to let you know, that we’re realistic thinking people that are looking for goals that can be attempted. So we never thought to be able to offer such springs for cheap prices or produce them in mass production. There would be no mass production and / or price reductions, seen the basic materials are to expensive and the production process is much to complicated to be produced in mass. And in fact the price is the biggest challenge of all, seen we want to keep that one within a range that would make it possible to get mystery’s for everybody. Otherwise I think we would be very much further than we are actually at this time.
Talking about time it is like you wrote a big task, that could not be accomplished within no time and it will not be within the next few weeks, that mystery’s would be available. And we don’t get the financial possibility’s to build a testing device of the kind like I would consider as perfect. We would talk about investments of half a million to go for it with such a device and this is far away out of our possibility’s as well as seen the fact, that we would be limited in production with the mystery’s. We don’t have the cash to buy such a device and specially rent a building for it to make running that bitch which would consume 48kwh electricity….
So we have to go with more simple testing devices that would need much more time as well, to go for dynamic tests. Seen you’re well informed I see no need to explain you any more and you will understand by yourself, that much longer development times would result out of this. But on the other hand the people busy with theses springs are real running hot, they’re forwarding real very fast and so we would be able to compensate some (little) development time by this.
But yesterday the engineer has passed the half day by checking out the next improvements with us. So the third improved pair of them is already in it’s head and has to be made now by the spring maker. Hopefully I will get them soon to check out, but the pair of first edition more stiffer I even did not test myself, seen the work of the last time made me look and feel like a zombie. And it’s not considered as wise to get on stilts if body and spirit are to tired.
For now I need some relax to get new energy for work and bounce again and then I do need some practicing on stilts as well, after this long winter break.

Have fun, jump high says Dome

[Dome]

Hi bouncing friends,
Seen the Olympic games are not far away anymore, my spring maker is quiet busy with works for these. But nothing less the mystery springs are forwarding again and the upcoming Monday, the next improved mystery spring prototype goes on his way to my place.
Further more I hopefully do progress as well with the testing device and a hydraulic pump for that one is in sight as well:



All the sensor devices are already checked and would be ordered next week and so all that’s left about would be things like the device frame and some little spare parts. About this I will take care within the next week and so we’re not that far away anymore, to be able to work by dynamic tests. The only thing that I do consider as real boring is the space, that testing device would ask again. Space starts to be something more and more rare at our place and I would not be surprised, if the electricity company would ask me later on, what we would use for that amount of energy ….   

Have fun, jump high, says Dome

[Dome]

Yeah,
they're still not the ones we're looking for, but the point of changing behavior is already solved and the next improved pair of mystery springs is already in work.





Next type should be the way we want them about behavior and breaking issues. So if that would work out like we do expect, there would just be some extra safety improvements to add, before the mystery’s finally would be ready to be sold.
That much to keep you up to date about the progressing of the mystery springs.

Have fun, jump high, says Dome

[Pendragon]

Wow they look extremely thin.

[scousybouncy]

They do look really thin, it gives them that look of weakness. But I  am sure they are really strong.

[Dome]

Yes,
they're quiet thin and even if the next edition will become a little thicker, they still would stay thinner than gf springs.









I did not try them out yet, seen I had to try out first the last pair of them. They have not been that satisfying, seen they're like the PS 640's but don't bring the power desired, when just bouncing by the own body weight. By pushing them harder they get more Power than Skips, but this is not our goal. We're looking for springs with a soft, but allready powerful start, thus a kind of bahvior that the PS springs gets.

Have fun, jump high, says Dome

[Mr Frank]

It would seem to me that the width of the spring from side to side and the thinness from front to back are how the durability problem is solved.  That way, you have the same power but the inside is compressed less and the outside is stretched less.

It looks like there are different layers to them??  I count six strips of material.

Very nice, I can't wait until they're ready to sell.

[zerocool]

thin and sexy

[Dark Knight]

I'm just hoping that I can get a pair of 160's or 180's I'm building a different type of frame for them !
By the way that's Kg's

Havent you f***ed enough frames up yet DK?

I've not even started !
I'm even working on a compact frame !
And also I've think I've solved the stairs problem ( walking down them ) !
So the answers no !

Without people trying new things this sport will get stuck in the past unlike EVERY other extreme sport !