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« on: December 03, 2008, 04:49:55 AM »

Sorry Guys I am new to this.

Has anyone ever made a mod to run offroad IE: Trails, dirt, sand ECT?

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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2008, 04:53:02 AM »

I was thinking maybe wider hoofs? like a horseshoe or a round puck, duck foot ect, you know for more stability in softer soil. 

 I want to use them to travel quickly across uneven terrain. IE: ROCKS & SAND at 15-20mph.  Mostly Flat but would be nice to MOD these for Trekking.
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2008, 05:44:37 AM »

mechanicaly speaking the bigger the hoof.... the more EXACT you have to plant the hoof into the ground.  Much higher learning curve making it far more difficult to use the stilts. 

As the stilt hoofs are designed now, if you get them to the ground about any ol' way.... and put/move your weight close to over them... they work.   With a bigger hoof. this will not be the case.   you will have to EXACTLY get your weight centered over the hoof each and every time.
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2008, 06:16:33 AM »

what coach said Smiley ...
but coach, I think you were assuming that the entire botom surface of the hoof must remain rigid.

I think what Chomp meant was are there mods that let you *ignore* hoof placement and such.  Meaning, if you're running on a rocky trail, and one of your hooves lands unevenly on a rock or something  it somehow accomodates so you can keep going without noticing it.  As far as I know nothing like this exists.

BUT theoratically speaking, if you designed a new hoof shaped more like a... lets say 2-4 toed bird foot, this might be possible, ive actually done a few doodles of how it might work - but it still doesnt.  Personally if I had the funds for this sort of thing, I'd just buy a bentley and forget about bocks.

Also, Chomp, I would guess theres at least something out there useful for softer soil and sand, but keep in mind, that any terrain that isn't totally rigid will always "steal" some of the energy that would otherwise have been stored in your springs.  On soft soil or sand it will always be more difficult for you to run and jump as high as on concrete - if at all, I have yet to see a Beach Bocking vid Smiley

Anyone in a beach community have any problems with sand/dirt getting inside the bushings/bearings and causing problems?

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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2008, 06:41:16 AM »

I'm thinking of making a "Camel" style hoof, that has two toes that can split partly to reveal a "V" in the middle to spread the load more.

Another idea would be a hoof with deep ridges which could work in much the same way.

Adding extra rubber to all the sides the hoof in a bowl type design maybe of some help to.
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2008, 10:08:41 AM »

well i thought about having a sort of main hoof, but with sprung sections around it so that it could be placed on something that wasn't flat


...but simply put the answer is a no for going fast off road, anything uneven isn't too nice to bock on, even if you can get grip on it, it can put lots of sideways pressure on the knees
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« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2008, 05:47:03 PM »

Simple answer = No matter what you are doing whether its driving bocking or having a picnic Even ground is better than uneven
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2008, 12:46:10 AM »

Anyone in a beach community have any problems with sand/dirt getting inside the bushings/bearings and causing problems?

if you bock on a beach, sand gets everywhere, I had to completely disassemble and clean my bocks after doing so.

As for off road bocking.  A good set of tire socks will give you grip on dirt, but at bock running speed if you hit a patch of mud or a wet rock, you're going down no matter how much grip you have.  bock just aren't meant for that kind of environment, and its not safe to use them there.  If you do , i hope you've got plenty of pads.

also Idk if you have bocks yet CHOMP, but if you don't, maintaining a running speed on bocks for more than a few hundred meters on level ground is very tiring on bocks, unless you're a trained athlete I doubt you'd be able to maintain such a pace on difficult terrain.
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« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2008, 02:14:46 AM »
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been thinking about doing something similiar to this, but to actually go off road and wander with stilts, i must know how the terrain looks on the whole stretch - otherwise its just pointless to bring the stilts if your gonna have to take em off/on between different terrains

aint practical enough, so im sticking to the streets
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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2008, 02:19:01 AM »

ok, well, i believe i can add a little something.  ive tried bocking on some packed dirt/sand(dirt bike trail)  all i can say about it is dont try it unless u r prepared to get hurt.  the grip was just horrible, everytime i would try going up or down the little dune, the hoof would just slip out from under me.  so yea, i dont recomend off road bocking at all.
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« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2008, 05:58:51 AM »

one off-road mod is putting studs on the bottom of your hoof like football shoes

(Jason R)

this helps for grip on surfaces like soft soil or grass.
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« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2008, 07:23:38 AM »

using regular tyresocks i've bocked up a welsh valley, along the footpath, but it was covered in rocks and slopes everywhere, managed to get pretty far, over a couple of rivers, which aren't very fun to go through btw.  but had to turn around when the 2 options were a scree slope or really small rock steps over a long drop

...coming down again was great, but i only managed it because i can place my feet where i want them well, if you don't have good precision to them then you're screwed
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« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2008, 11:13:59 AM »

Lol someone should make suspension hooves
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2008, 05:19:08 PM »

Nice trye socks
MKaking suspension hooves would take alot of work
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« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2008, 05:50:03 PM »

Yer but it would be awesome
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