import taxes

[Sprog]

most people i've talked to say that the 7's would be a better choice.  they reason is mostly the spring, but a person ive talked to, who has both 2007's and 7's said that the overall quality of 7's is better.  he recomended me buying 7's over 2007's (like most people that have tried both) even if they cost $700. he said they are definetely better then 2007's

Who else have you talked to who has both PR2007's and 7's?
7s springs may seem better, but I'm going to run a test very soon with stilts that have all been used for around the same amount of time so then i'll give you a definate answer... on my 7's i've already eaten through the protection on mine just by jumping, flip attempts and tricks. I still stand by my statement that PR springs are on par and that the calf cuffs and EVO2 bindings make the PR2007s better, everything else with the stilts is just about on par as far as i've seen. You just need to maintain them, like all other things.

zerocool u r saying that there is a way to avoid import taxes?  if so, tell me how please.
-Thanks

Have the package marked as "gift". It's fairly easy

[masterking09]

i by no means disregard what you say.  i didnt mean to sound rude in asking the question.  and about the spare parts thing, when something breaks i am sure there will already have a US dealer of 7's.  if there i no dealer by then the bocks will probably still be under warranty allowing me  to get the part free of charge anyway.  anyone can feel free to disagree with anything i say, it is just my opinion.

sprog if i have 7's company mark the package as gift when they ship it i wont have to pay the import taxes?  wen do u think your test will be completed sprog, i plan on buying soon so i hope u can do it in that time as i am interested.  and the person that has both pr2007's and 7's that i talked to is giggen.  he highly recomends 7's over pr2007's.
-Thanks

[Trip Master]

Regarding independant testing the great thing about Mallorca this year is that there are Bockers going that are currently using other stilts such as Powerskip (Tundrah and Kiola) plus a few others i think that are used to PoweriSer. I want both Tundrah and Kiola to have a really good go on the S Rex during the meeting. The X and R's as it will be great to see how the Slayer and K get on !! The best way to test a spring is to have the same bocker use both and check the response and height but most importantly the spring character. Of the 200 or so pairs i sold last year i have had no spring breakages and 2 minor frame repairs under warranty. Long term durability should also feature in testing of stilts.

[masterking09]

trip master it seems very unlikely that i will have to replace a part on 7's any time soon.  do u think it is a safe buy to go with 7's from Austria, or do u think it is risky and would be too hard to get parts if anything did go wrong?
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[Sprog]

The problem with said tests is to be 100% accurate all the stilts have to be the same age and have the same amount of hours of use.

sprog if i have 7's company mark the package as gift when they ship it i wont have to pay the import taxes?

That's how it works in the UK

wen do u think your test will be completed sprog, i plan on buying soon so i hope u can do it in that time as i am interested

It depends on when the next gym session is, and who is there. Currently I'm looking at testing a pair of PR2007's (PR7090s), a pair of 7's (T-Rexs), a pair of FlyingLocust G6's (M70s or M80s i think they are), a pair of PowerSkips (E640's), and a pair of normal poweriSers (PR7090s again). They've all been owned for between 3-4 months so should be fairly equal, apart from the skips which are a month old but have been given a right bashing by Joe.

Long term durability should also feature in testing of stilts.

Yep, which is why I hope to repeat my test 3-6 months after the initial one

[masterking09]

i seriously hope this next meet is soon sprog.  i am starting to get tired of waiting to buy my stilts.  its just that i want the best deal.  the sooner the test the better.  when is the next meeet scheduled?

[Sprog]

Should be weekend after next. I hope.

[masterking09]

ok.  do u think u could put up the test right away?  i certainly dont want to end up wasting money getting 7's if they arent any better.  it's just that most of the impressive bocking i see is done with 7's or skips and skips r out of the question.  i also noticed that people that start off bocking on 7's seem to learn faster then those who use powerisers.  has anyone else noticed this?

[Sprog]

That would be because most new people are buying 7s and are learning from other people. Those who started on poweriSers were those of us back when the site really started to get bigger and there was nobody near any of us really so we all had to teach ourselves. People are progressing faster now because they have other, more experienced bockers to learn from.

[masterking09]

maybe.  i still think that the stilts has a little to do with it though.  we will have to see.

[Trip Master]

That would be because most new people are buying 7s and are learning from other people.

Arrh i wish this was true LOL to be honest i think alot of people that are forum members have 7's but i honestly think our sales are alot less than the Flying Locust brands by a long way in the UK. Its not a negative but true, maybe i shouldn't admit it 

[ElectricStapler]

Sprog when you do the test, it might be a good Idea to try the springs on their respective frames, and then try all the springs on the same frame.

[Sprog]

Good idea ES, just that involves disassembling everyone's bocks, not too sure they'd be happy with me doing that

Arrh i wish this was true LOL to be honest i think alot of people that are forum members have 7's but i honestly think our sales are alot less than the Flying Locust brands by a long way in the UK. Its not a negative but true, maybe i shouldn't admit it 

I was comparing 7s to poweriSer In the past year more people have signed up in the UK with 7's than with poweriSers, and these people have access to experienced bockers to teach them, hence why it appears they learn faster.
We have people in the JJs who got poweriSers at christmas and they are learning just as fast as people who are on 7's.

[ElectricStapler]

Good idea ES, just that involves disassembling everyone's bocks, not too sure they'd be happy with me doing that

I think that might be the only scientific way (that truly shows the difference in springs) to do it. The frames have too many differences that might affect performance. If, for example, you used a PR classic frame, you would have a little more trouble seeing if there was any consistency.

[Sprog]

This is true. I think i should also test them on a pair of stilts with kneebars rather than calf cuffs as the majority of brands come with bars instead of cuffs. Good idea?