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« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2008, 10:18:33 PM »

Well your doing well from what i've seen here zipp, nice stuff. I really want 7's they look awesome, but i dunno whether to wait until my b-day, and ask for them, or just pay for them myself =/ hmm, i'll have to think about it.

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« Reply #46 on: May 12, 2008, 12:38:54 PM »

Ok,
Here's how the lower joints on my risers look - not at all flush.  Does anyone have a picture of how they should look for comparison?  This is killing me - the sun is shining and I'm making no progress .... Grrrrr.


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« Reply #47 on: May 12, 2008, 12:41:09 PM »

... and here's how the joints on the other leg look


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« Reply #48 on: May 12, 2008, 01:44:26 PM »

There is definitely way too much space in that joint.  Here's the design problem as I see it.  The stainless steel sleeve bushings (as I call them) are fine and good as they stick through the holes of the inner u-frame - however - the design has nothing incorporated into it that prevents the inner u-frame wall from bending inwards except maybe that black plastic bushing cradle (as I call it).  Unfortunately, that black plastic cradle doesn't always extend all the way across and contact the inner u-frame's inner walls.   Look closely at the ends of the black cradle in the above photos.  You can see there is still a gap between it and the inner u-frame wall.  So  any gap will allow the inner u-frame to bend inward and open up that joint to lateral movement. 

Actually, all the manufacturers have to do to keep this from happening is to just make sure that black cradle perfectly fits the space between the inner u-frame walls to prevent the walls from bending inward.  You can see in the close-up photos that the frame of this riser has already bent inward until it has been stopped by the black plastic cradle.  It's just another example of poor manufacturing and/or design.
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« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2008, 04:46:44 PM »

There is definitely way too much space in that joint.  Here's the design problem as I see it.  The stainless steel sleeve bushings (as I call them) are fine and good as they stick through the holes of the inner u-frame - however - the design has nothing incorporated into it that prevents the inner u-frame wall from bending inwards except maybe that black plastic bushing cradle (as I call it).  Unfortunately, that black plastic cradle doesn't always extend all the way across and contact the inner u-frame's inner walls.   Look closely at the ends of the black cradle in the above photos.  You can see there is still a gap between it and the inner u-frame wall.  So  any gap will allow the inner u-frame to bend inward and open up that joint to lateral movement. 

Actually, all the manufacturers have to do to keep this from happening is to just make sure that black cradle perfectly fits the space between the inner u-frame walls to prevent the walls from bending inward.  You can see in the close-up photos that the frame of this riser has already bent inward until it has been stopped by the black plastic cradle.  It's just another example of poor manufacturing and/or design.

To further expand upon that bill,
a better solution would simply be to have a spacer (metal) or even a PVC spacer added around the bushing sleeves to prevent the frame from bending inwards.
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« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2008, 05:19:56 PM »

Exactly.  I actually began to write that, but realized that such an approach would require a change in the black plastic bushing cradle in order to accommodate an outer sleeve "spacer.  So I think the simplest way to correct this flaw using the present design is to just make sure the length of that black cradle exactly matches the wall to wall dimension of that u-frame.  That cradle now reaches half-way up the side of the bushings, so it should be able to hold off the inward pressure - if it was the right length.  Higher would be even better.
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« Reply #51 on: May 12, 2008, 05:39:54 PM »

This goes back to my wobble complaint I had a while ago. Mine are the same way.  I threw a washer in that gap.  It helps, but doesn't fix it entirely.  One thing I noticed on my old PoweriZers is that it had a metal spacer thing that kept the hoof frame from bending inwards.  Anyone elses PoweriZer/Flying Jumpers have this support on em?
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« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2008, 07:22:08 PM »

I want to thank Bill for bringing this issue to our attention. We know that the inconsistent sizing on the plastic spacer/cradle is a problem.  We will have the Poweriser manufacturer resolve this issue so that we can avoid this problem on future sales within a few months.

In the interim please remember your advanced models ARE eligible for warranty coverage, even replacement, for manufacturing defects (including this defect).

You may contact customers@xphub.com directly with photo evidence & proof of purchase or submit a claim through the outlet you bought from, within the USA.

Like the original bearing issue we really appreciate consumer feedback and are grateful to the poweriserpages forum for facilitating this. 

When we have the correct cradle/spacers and/or other problem solving hardware we'll make it freely available to owners of the Poweriser advanced who recieved badly sized cradle/spacers in their models.

Thanks & Best.
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« Reply #53 on: May 12, 2008, 07:25:23 PM »

Nice.  Thanks, Dane.
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« Reply #54 on: May 13, 2008, 05:41:44 PM »

hi i dont post as much as i used to but i was shown this whilst telling someone about my poweriSers 08s

i have EXACTLY the same problem and have spoken to skate hut and j and r sports and they are picking them up tommorow as i am really unhappy with my 08s as well as having this problem my frame is bent and i mean i can see my hoof sticking out the side of footplate and they should be inline

well i will post pics and stuff and let ya'll know soon whats going on but i deffo think its all 08s as Murdies and Billys are the same the only reason any1 should buy them is if they want to spend £200 on calf cuffs its the only part on mine that still good condition

sorry to rant on but i had to let you all know

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