Are these really powerisers?

[Cantallian]

i'd say 70% of new buyers of bocks are under 18 and have to save up just to afford the stilts, it would be a pain to need to save up again for new springs after a few months.

As a retailer, that has not been my experience. In fact, my stats show approx 6% being sold to under 18's. My largest percentage of sales has gone to people aged between 22 and 35 but then I have only been a retailer of this product since June and at least 80% of my sales to date have been made online.

Nonetheless XS, you make a good point which I feel compelled to add to...

Used stilts from authorised brands are worth a lot of money if:
a) they are in excellent condition,
b) they are not modified,
c) the hooves are as new.

So here are some tips for you guys:
1. When modifying your stilts, make sure all mods are reversible. That means, if you intend taping up your springs, put an inner tube over the original plastic protection before taping. That way, when you come to resell them you can remove everything to make them appear as new. You may believe your mods have improved the stilts and that may well be the case however, one man's cup of tea is another man's poison. Buyers like to personalise their stilts in their choice of materials and colours.
2. If you have changed the standard straps for snowboard straps, keep the originals and at the time of resale swap them back again. You can use your snowboard straps on your next pair of stilts. If you intend giving up the sport, let the buyer know how much the snowboard straps cost, why they are an improvement, and tell him you will supply the original straps also. If the originals were broken, tell him you replaced them with snowboard straps as they are much stronger but that you did not keep the originals. Whatever you do, do NOT tell him you broke them because that simply signifies massive usage which to a buyer is like a high-mileage vehicle.
3. If you have taped up the foam around the knee bar it would be best to replace the knee bars. Nothing looks more ugly to a buyer than a taped knee bar.
4. Replace the soles of the hooves either with the original part if you have the new type of bolt-on soles, or by cutting out a piece of bike tyre and superglueing it to the old one. Buyers fear worn out soles. Again, it gives the impression of overuse.

Now here's some proof of what I have just been saying. One of the members here has just sold his Poweriser PR7090's (2008) on eBay for £90. The springs were taped and the hooves had tyre socks on them. One month ago, the same item was on eBay but in original condition and it went for £150. Last night a pair of good condition Pro-Jump M70's (2008) went for £120 on eBay. They didn't even have the box or manual! If that doesn't impress you, consider that they sell new on eBay for £135. Personally, I think this case is rather exceptional because they weren't really worth more than £72 but it does go to show that demand is high for used stilts and people will pay good money if they are in original condition.

So why have I told you all this?

If an 18 year old wants to trade up, he won't have to save very much if he can sell his existing stilts for a high price. If he tries to sell them modified and with worn soles, he is going to get burnt and will have to save up much more than he expected.

[skatenpaint]

i could see how that could be a disadvantage

[XarnuSonci]

really i see moding your mods such that they're reversable seems almost dishonest to me, like here's a pair that is in like new condition, but you just took off all your protection so they're really got decent milage on the spring and the bearings but you can't see it from ebay pics.  I just think they idea of buying something like bocks 2nd hand is such a bad idea anyway, if people try to keep them looking like new to sell later it'd be even worse cause the good looking ones could have who knows how much wear on the spring and bushings which are the important parts.

[masterking09]

Nick is doesnt just "seem" dishonest, it is.  heres a quote from Cantallian "4. Replace the soles of the hooves either with the original part if you have the new type of bolt-on soles, or by cutting out a piece of bike tyre and superglueing it to the old one. Buyers fear worn out soles. Again, it gives the impression of overuse."  now that is just not right.  u glue a piece of bike tire to the hoofs if they r worn out. i mean common, a glued peice of bike tire isnt going to hold up for more then 2 minutes, and then the buyer is going to be left with an old worn out sole.  the buyer should be able to see all the defects and usage if u ask me, or else  consider it fraud

[XarnuSonci]

you'd be suprised masterking, i didn't think it would work either till i tried it, but i've got bike tires superglued to my bocks and they've held up since mid august, so 1.5 months, and that included a my CB extravoganza which was 1.5 weeks of 4+ hour use every day

[masterking09]

XS i didnt think it was a piece of bike tire u glued to urs.

[Cantallian]

First let me add to the glued bike tyre conversation. Both my stilts and my sons have had this mod done to them from new. That's right, neither of us even walked a single step on the stock soles because I read what you guys were saying about them here before I bought mine. In another post concerning hoof modification I posted photos of mine to prove that they wear extremely well compared with tyre socks. In fact my son uses his much more than I do and after 3.5 months, not only are they still stuck to perfection but there is very little sign of wear to the tread, and he only uses them outside on the streets.

Replacing worn soles with either new ones or bike tyres is far from dishonest, it's doing the buyer a favour because he would have had to do it himself anyway. The difference is that if you leave it to him the price of your stilts will plummet.

Now let's come back to the accusation of dishonesty. The moment you claim the stilts are used, that means they are not new, neither can they be considered to be as new even if the photos appear to be beautiful. A well known truth in vehicle sales is "all that glitters is gold" which means that people will buy a total dog if it at least looks pretty. But is that dishonest? Nobody wants to buy something that appears to be in bad condition. Even girls wear makeup to appear as attractive as possible. When they remove it they don't look the same. Are they being dishonest?

The bottom line here is that provided you do not claim your stilts have only been used a couple of times there is nothing dishonest about giving them an overhaul so that they fetch the highest price possible. And let's face it... do you want to get the highest you can when you resell them or would you prefer to just give them away?

The whole point of my post was to show students on tight budgets how to avoid having to save heavily when trading up from their first pair of stilts. I'm sorry if that bothers you guys but it's a reality which you can choose to embrace or not.

[darfgarf]

^^ makes perfect sense to me as long as you tell the truth about their history, e.g broken parts and what quality the replacements are, if i attempted to sell my stilts i'd probabyl get next to nothing, they're great stilts and in top condition now, but because they're all mish mashed with other stilt parts etc no one would want them

oh and girls who wear makeup are dishonest, as they don't need it in the firstplace, hehe i'm old fashioned like that

[Cantallian]

oh and girls who wear makeup are dishonest, as they don't need it in the firstplace, hehe i'm old fashioned like that

Is it dishonest to giftwrap a present? You only know what's really inside after peeling off the wrapping. Bah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!!

[darfgarf]

XD only dishonest if you say it's something else to whats in the packaging

...and if the presents a person then yes it is, or at least it's just plain weird but i'm sure there's a fetish for it, afterall they have bondage clowns these days

[carostar680]

on amazon i found a pair of SkyJumpers? - Well thats what they have put them as, are they the ones that are illegal to sell in the UK? Just wondering 

xx Caro xx

[XarnuSonci]

on amazon i found a pair of SkyJumpers? - Well thats what they have put them as, are they the ones that are illegal to sell in the UK? Just wondering 

they probably are

[carostar680]

sowhat shall i do tell them WHAT??? also ET well i think its him as it says English Taylor has done a review about em

xx Caro xx

[XarnuSonci]

sowhat shall i do tell them WHAT???

you don't buy them, and ignore it like the rest of us.  Its not worth trying to educate every poor sap trying to make a quick buck.

[carostar680]

okey dokey 

xx Caro x ps went to the park today and did a show for a mum and dad with their 2yr old daughter
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