Amputee Allowed to Compete

[Dark Knight]

Kender, i cant realy see people going to that xtreme mate,

I don't expect anyone on PPages to do that, nor any of my friends.

but to think it wouldn't happen at all?  I wouldn't go that far.

People already take drugs if an amputee use aids like these it's the next step.
Thing is their thinking of allowing it !

By the way I had a real bad motorbike smash and nearly lost my foot I have smashed bones, musscles, tendions ( you name it I had it ) I now have arthritis in the anlke joint. I walk with a limp ( which I can hide well ) but I find running very hard but you could never tell this when I'm bocking .
Right I'll race you on my bocks and you with your two good legs !?

Point being is I couldn't race anyone without bocks on but is is fair for me to allowed to race you running !?

[Trip Master]

well i say best of luck to him, i have absolutely no argument with him running. The olympic authorities arn't fools. They will have already had the facts and figures regarding any possible enhancements, all the questions that we are raising here will already have been carefully considered. The fact that he has been allowed to run means that facts and real proof are already in place to counter any arguments regarding his performance advantage.

I can run reasonably fast on Bocks but if i was entering a 200 metre race i would be much quicker on my legs. Most Bockers that i've seen that can sprint on stilts are quicker running normally over any distance. I've never seen anyone move particulary fast on Bocks who isn't already very fit and a good runner. My opinion for what its worth

[Dark Knight]

I can run reasonably fast on Bocks but if i was entering a 200 metre race i would be much quicker on my legs. Most Bockers that i've seen that can sprint on stilts are quicker running normally over any distance. I've never seen anyone move particulary fast on Bocks who isn't already very fit. My opinion for what its worth

Hiya I'm DK you've never seen me I'm 42, 17 stone with a buggered ankle and plan the run a marathon next year 

[English-tailor]

well i say best of luck to him, i have absolutely no argument with him running. The olympic authorities arn't fools. They will have already had the facts and figures regarding any possible enhancements, all the questions that we are raising here will already have been carefully considered. The fact that he has been allowed to run means that facts and real proof are already in place to counter any arguments regarding his performance advantage.

I can run reasonably fast on Bocks but if i was entering a 200 metre race i would be much quicker on my legs. Most Bockers that i've seen that can sprint on stilts are quicker running normally over any distance. I've never seen anyone move particulary fast on Bocks who isn't already very fit and a good runner. My opinion for what its worth

I agree I can run way faster on my feet than on bocks and Brucie who it is claimed can run at 30mph is more than likely a very fast sprinter off his bocks.

[Sprog]

I've never seen anyone move particulary fast on Bocks who isn't already very fit and a good runner. My opinion for what its worth

I'm not that fit and I don't run, but I did 22mph on my raptors... Then promtly fell over and removed a lot of skin

[Trip Master]

I can run reasonably fast on Bocks but if i was entering a 200 metre race i would be much quicker on my legs. Most Bockers that i've seen that can sprint on stilts are quicker running normally over any distance. I've never seen anyone move particulary fast on Bocks who isn't already very fit. My opinion for what its worth

Hiya I'm DK you've never seen me I'm 42, 17 stone with a buggered ankle and plan the run a marathon next year 

Best of luck to you, hope you make it..  Point i was making is Stilts don't give you super human powers. If you entered a 100 metre sprint on Bocks you would have a disadvantage because of additional weight. Two equal runners over 100m  with legs the guy running on legs would win every time.

[stevie]

i do understand were your coming from, i didn't realy want to get into a debate about it etc, but like dark night, i hade some near mis events, whilst in the army i nearly lost my right leg, spent a year in hospital. Also since 2000 iv been waiting for a knee op, i have cartlidge prob, so i have a slight limp, but i learnd to hide it,'

then in 2003 i needed life saving surgery on the left side of my head, i was told i would prob not make it, 80/20 against, and if i did the side efects could be bad, i did make it, but i now have nearly no hearing or sight on my left side, and a poor balance gland on my left side, i find it hard to walk in a straight line and hard to balance, i can never swim again, and so on,  

with out my stilts on i am quit restricted, but i should'nt even be able to balance on stilts never mind do what i do, the doctors are baffled so am i, for some reason no body knows why i can do what i can, but i can, and becouse of my stilts i have the chance to show that i am still fit and able to perform at a good level,

with that in mind, should i not compete with anybody who doesnt have my disability, or take my stilts of and just watch,

again please, i don't like talking about all that i only spoke to explain my view, with my stilts i can perform  like anybody els, sorry for going on,

 i hope this guy has a great time at the evnts, and once again i give him my full suport.

[coachgeo]

...with out my stilts on i am quit restricted, but i should'nt even be able to balance on stilts never mind do what i do, the doctors are baffled so am i, for some reason no body knows why i can do what i can, but i can, and becouse of my stilts i have the chance to show that i am still fit and able to perform at a good level, ...

Makes a ton of since to me.  The bong in the stilts creates more and larger inputs for all your remaining receptors to recieve.  They pass on this increased amount of data to your Brain.   Thus your brain has more data to work with when your on your stilts and that increased data allows it to adjust balance etc better. 

[stevie]

coachgeo, that is a realy good theory, i'l tel this to my surgeon next time i see him, as have to have check ups every few months, he did say that he would prefare me not to do stilts, but he also said, whatever it is you doing keep doing it, he is a cool doctor,he saved my life, Dr Bem at B,R,I, Bradford,i do consider myself to be quit fit, especialy for my age, i did have that light at the tunnel experience if you know what i mean, and it made me more determined to enjoy everything and do things i want to do to the full,

anyway, Coachgeo, thanks for that coment, you'v even got me talking about it, which is normaly hard for me to do, chears,

sorry for getting of the subject of the thread.

[coachgeo]

coachgeo, that is a realy good theory, ...  thanks for that coment, you'v even got me talking about it, which is normaly hard for me to do, chears,...

Got a back ground is in "Motor Learning / Biomechanics".  Just makes since to me.

Otherwise, I was raised around folk getting along in life with various adaptations applied to work around physical and mental conflicts due to birth defects, accident etc. etc.

Strongest people I know and the lessons in life I've learned from being around them makes me see value of life much more clearly.  Im sure your an insperation to several and you aint even got a clue you are. 

So just Bock on

[Charlie B]

I work in sport and am responsible for improving equality, one of my colleagues is paraplegic. he is an inspiration and a role model to many.

Stevie, we have met on a number of occasions, I was aware of some of experiences but not all. You certainly have my respect for both what you have achieved and who you are which is a top bloke and some one close to my age that Bocks!

The big issue with this is the possibility of gaining an advantage. There was talk about the advantage being that lower leg muscle fatigue would not occur so power could be maintained unlike other athletes. They must have worked it out to be insignificant.

Para olympics do have points systems to attempt to level the competition so people can be put in similar ability groups, these are always difficult to interpret.  The main olympics do not have handicaps or points systems. Not sure how that would work for eaxmple if you came 3rd but when points system was used you won the race.

[zerocool]

if he wins he will be the New England Patriots  Branded a cheater for life
because he had a competitive advantage,  his springs are his video tapes
he should be in the pra-olympics